Comments on: Obama Clinches The Nomination

By: larry d.

larry d. — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 00:44:04 +0000

I didn't mean to say all atheists are angry and/or self-righteous, Reverend.

Some are, however, and that type seems to enjoy scoffing at those primitive Christians and agnostics. I suspect that type of atheist is still trying to convince themself of something.

By: The Reverend

The Reverend — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 14:28:01 +0000

In larry's mind, atheists are "self righteous" and/or "angry".

I suppose that allows for non-atheists to claim some form of internal satisfaction. But neither is true.

I've paid my substantial dues to the religion discussion, over 15 years or so, working my way out from under superstition and self-centered wishful thinking approaches to reality.

I'm not angry, nor do I feel self-righteous. The truth existed before I subjectively believed it. It will exist long after I'm gone.

"angry", not you angry, and "self-righteous" are diversions from reality as well. My current understanding is neither, instead it is liberating and humbling. Liberating, in that pre-conceived notions are just that, pre-conceived. Humbling, in that I had been completely wrong about religion and the existence of some divinity.

jimmy….Wasn't Brooks there at Applebee's? That fictitious salad bar Obama isn't comfortable eating at is a bit like those WMD threats from Iraq Obama wasn't comfortable with either. Brooks is …a wanker. I know, that's not news.

And George Will? Now there's a bitter man who tries, yet fails, to hide his genuine self-righteousness. Funny how a guy who bathes in his own superior knowledge was so totally incorrect about the Bush/Cheney regime.

Well…not so funny.

By: Chuck K

Chuck K — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:28:54 +0000

Equating health care for a person in need to a Caddillac.

People like you just don't get it.

By: Alaskan Independent

Alaskan Independent — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 07:11:40 +0000

Did anyone else catch that the day Hilary tossed in the towel was the anniversary of the 19th Amendment? It's neither here nor there, but still worth noting.

Obama supporters: What did you make out of his AIPAC speech?

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 03:36:17 +0000

And most people like a quarter million dollar home and a Cadillac in the garage. Does it mean everyone will have it? No.

By: Chuck K

Chuck K — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 03:13:17 +0000

Obama's government is going to help people get health care and education if they want it. GOOD!

And lets be very clear, that is what he wants to provide. He does not want government to take care of defense contractors, insurance companies, oil companies or telecom companies.

He wants to help "take care" of education and health care.

NEWSFLASH: MOST PEOPLE LIKE THAT!

By: angry conserv

angry conserv — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 02:27:08 +0000

If Obama wins the era of the gov. providing for the people will be in full effect. Cant say I remember the saying but I believe it is something along the lines of –a gov. that is big enough to take care of your is also powerful enought to take things from you. But what the hell it will be done for the best interests of all the people.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 23:29:40 +0000

Well chuckles I don't have rabies and you think he appeals to the needs on your side but he sure don't with my side. Looks light the soviet polit bureau begins buisness today.

By: larry d.

larry d. — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 19:42:07 +0000

Not all atheists are self-righteous either. But in my experience, self-righteous atheists are usually angry. And I suspect they're not even really atheists.

By: larry d.

larry d. — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 19:29:35 +0000

Oh yeah, Chuck K. What do you think of the iconic political rendering on the side of a building?

I can't remember seeing such a work depicting a living U.S. politician in my lifetime. I have seen similar works in other countries with strict authoritarian regimes, however.

I can't say I know what it means but why is it "mouth foaming" to point out the peculiarity?

By: Chuck O

Chuck O — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 19:22:24 +0000

not all atheists are angry, that is a silly portrayal

By: larry d.

larry d. — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 19:17:18 +0000

What's the matter with being agnostic? It's hard to be as self-righteous as the angry atheist when you're agnostic, but it's an honest approach to unanswerable questions.

By: jimmy james

jimmy james — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:14:53 +0000

An update. I'm now at Applebees and I can't find the salad bar. Brooks, typically, is late.

Will, with his massive intellect, is an agnostic? I wonder if he is agnostic towards the Tooth Fairy?

By: Kyle Kutuchief

Kyle Kutuchief — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:12:03 +0000

I watched the Will on Colbert too. I was also shocked by his agnostic comment. I agree he doesn't seem very happy. I enjoyed the interview though. Few guest are able to match Colbert's wit. Will gave short and direct answers and it threw Colbert off.

By: Chuck O

Chuck O — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:44:57 +0000

many people who just don't care or think about religion call themsleves agnostic. An atheist is someone who rejects the notion of a higher being, while an agnostic doesn't acknowledge the existence nor deny the possibility of a god.

By: Chuck O

Chuck O — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:42:26 +0000

i don't think his outlook is brutal or sad, he is a pragmatic

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:29:09 +0000

I just wonder how much energy was waisted in lifting that mass into the air like that? Could it have been put to better use?

By: jimmy james

jimmy james — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:08:14 +0000

I saw that Will interview and found it interesting that he is an agnostic. He could not call himself an outright atheist.

I did find his outlook on life brutal and sad.

Moving on…. Contrast Obama's speech last night with McCains'. Not pretty. Even conservatives were calling it "creaky, ungracious, and unnecessary." -> http://tinyurl.com/4yhg4q

McCain is now calling for town hall meetings between him and Obama leading up to the conventions. Not sure this is a wise thing to do if you are McCain.

Hey, heading off to the salad bar at Applebees to meet David Brooks for lunch if anyone wants to join!

By: Chuck O

Chuck O — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:54:58 +0000

does anyone else see him as apolitical newbie, with many stances that lack forward thinking, I was up much later than usual last night and caught one of my favorite writers on Colbert Report, George Will made a good point in regards to Obama, his stances are reactionary to policies he has put in place. As this election continues forward I actually see him alienating more mainstream voters, not because of "fear" but because he is advocating a society that will sacrifice personal responsibility and freedom for government provided existence.

That being said congratulaitons to all of you Obama backers, enjoy your day of victory

By: Chuck K

Chuck K — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:39:51 +0000

Your only true hope is pretty simple: can the mouthfoamers like "anonymous" and "larry d" scare up enough baseless fear in Americans to block Obama's message.

My guess is that these attempts will fail. Hillary failed to do so. Haneeler failed to do so with the Rev Wright stuff. And the fear-mongers will ultimately fail.

Obama is a great candidate that appeals to needs and hopes of most Americans. His opponent fails to do so.