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		<title>By: larry d.</title>
		<link>http://politics.ohio.com/2008/05/14/obama-beats-edwards-by-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2531</link>
		<dc:creator>larry d.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 14:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Chuck, I checked it out. It always amazes me how your pictures make you liberals almost seem normal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Chuck, I checked it out. It always amazes me how your pictures make you liberals almost seem normal.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://politics.ohio.com/2008/05/14/obama-beats-edwards-by-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2521</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 03:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and i am a no go on the extension of our bet.</description>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://politics.ohio.com/2008/05/14/obama-beats-edwards-by-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2520</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 03:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thechiefsource.com

it is a site kyle founded and i have contributed to for almost 4 years</description>
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<p>it is a site kyle founded and i have contributed to for almost 4 years</p>
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		<title>By: larry d.</title>
		<link>http://politics.ohio.com/2008/05/14/obama-beats-edwards-by-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2514</link>
		<dc:creator>larry d.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 22:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where can I find Chuck&#039;s blog?</description>
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		<title>By: farleigh</title>
		<link>http://politics.ohio.com/2008/05/14/obama-beats-edwards-by-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2512</link>
		<dc:creator>farleigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>would you also increase the bet to include getting snipped.  I am sure neither one of us wants the other to have kids?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>would you also increase the bet to include getting snipped.  I am sure neither one of us wants the other to have kids?</p>
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		<title>By: farleigh</title>
		<link>http://politics.ohio.com/2008/05/14/obama-beats-edwards-by-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2511</link>
		<dc:creator>farleigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the only thing not good for anyone is that you have a soapbox to stand on and spread your hate.  Luckily once obama loses you won&#039;t have that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the only thing not good for anyone is that you have a soapbox to stand on and spread your hate.  Luckily once obama loses you won&#039;t have that.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://politics.ohio.com/2008/05/14/obama-beats-edwards-by-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2509</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 17:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....then again, don&#039;t spend your time digging up old comments.  if you have something on the top of your mind, fine.  but i dont&#039; want you spending more time obsessing and getting more angry over me.  its just not good for anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.then again, don&#039;t spend your time digging up old comments.  if you have something on the top of your mind, fine.  but i dont&#039; want you spending more time obsessing and getting more angry over me.  its just not good for anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 17:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;evil rants&quot; 
get a grip

and i have called hillarys tactics a bunch of names, not her supporters.  the only time i take issue with individual supporters is my shots i have taken at annie, which were all justified 
(for example, i have railed for 6 months about that iran vote as the #1 reason she is unfit to be president and annie NEVER addressed it....the same thing happened when bob brought up stuff.... so i have a tough time valuing her statements when she devalues herself by ignoring legitimate issues)

and i would love to learn of some of those &quot;despicable&quot; comments.  i am certain, in context, you are getting your self irrationally worked up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;evil rants&#034;<br />
get a grip</p>
<p>and i have called hillarys tactics a bunch of names, not her supporters.  the only time i take issue with individual supporters is my shots i have taken at annie, which were all justified<br />
(for example, i have railed for 6 months about that iran vote as the #1 reason she is unfit to be president and annie NEVER addressed it&#8230;.the same thing happened when bob brought up stuff&#8230;. so i have a tough time valuing her statements when she devalues herself by ignoring legitimate issues)</p>
<p>and i would love to learn of some of those &#034;despicable&#034; comments.  i am certain, in context, you are getting your self irrationally worked up.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 17:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Newt hasnt been in office for like 10 years.  Why dont we talk about Mary Rose Ozkar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newt hasnt been in office for like 10 years.  Why dont we talk about Mary Rose Ozkar</p>
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		<title>By: farleigh</title>
		<link>http://politics.ohio.com/2008/05/14/obama-beats-edwards-by-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2498</link>
		<dc:creator>farleigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 14:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Newt=not in office Tom Delay=not in office, GWB &amp; Cheney=7.5 months.  I don&#039;t see McCain in the mold of any of them, but I am sure because he is a republican he is just a evil with you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newt=not in office Tom Delay=not in office, GWB &amp; Cheney=7.5 months.  I don&#039;t see McCain in the mold of any of them, but I am sure because he is a republican he is just a evil with you</p>
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		<title>By: farleigh</title>
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		<dc:creator>farleigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 14:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>obviously you are not familiar with chucks evil rants whether they be here or on his blog.  He calls HIllary supporters evil disgusting, he says McCain is a child killer etc etc.  Believe me &quot;reverend&quot;  Chuck has said some despicable things that I am sure he would never say in mixed company.  Anyways my offer extends to you as well, if you are so confident in the merits of your candidate, by all means please join in our friendly wager, I applaud Chuck for at least having the courage of his convictions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>obviously you are not familiar with chucks evil rants whether they be here or on his blog.  He calls HIllary supporters evil disgusting, he says McCain is a child killer etc etc.  Believe me &#034;reverend&#034;  Chuck has said some despicable things that I am sure he would never say in mixed company.  Anyways my offer extends to you as well, if you are so confident in the merits of your candidate, by all means please join in our friendly wager, I applaud Chuck for at least having the courage of his convictions.</p>
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		<title>By: The Reverend</title>
		<link>http://politics.ohio.com/2008/05/14/obama-beats-edwards-by-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2493</link>
		<dc:creator>The Reverend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 13:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Dudes....throwing down in May over the November election. Great stuff.

to farleigh: It is true that in the rust and Appalachian zones of Ohio, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, and Kentucky, education levels of the population are lower than in other states. 

Are all Democratic voters for Hillary in those states uneducated and ignorant? Of course not. Folks who can&#039;t see past the &quot;gas tax holiday&quot; nonsense are unsophisticated in political pandering, at the very least. Others simply voted for their personal choice between two outstandingly qualified candidates.

I do believe that education is the key to tolerance and further reduction of racism in America. Many folks in West Virginia, according to exit polls, included race as a primary reason in who they voted for. High school only voters were also a large portion of WVa&#039;s turnout. You do the math.

You say...&quot;all the while he tells me that I am bitter and thats why I go to church, or I am uneducated and thats why I own a gun.&quot; 

You sound bitter. And it is true that some bitter people own guns and some attend church. Only you know why you own a gun.

What Obama said which you are misusing, understandably, is that some Americans, perhaps you are one, have been so hardened and cynical about politicians&#039; promises to help average working families that they simply dismiss all of those offerings as lies now. Then they proceed to vote in elections basing their votes on other arguments, religious issues, guns, and I would argue, gays, stem cells, abortions, etc.

All of that is true. 

A Democratic primary result CANNOT be extrapolated into the same general election result. That would be very shaky, if not shady, thinking. Easy to disprove as well. Think Obama will lose California or New York? Do you? Hey, Obama didn&#039;t win either primary.

Finally, Ben is holding his chin up high, and he knows the score this November. I&#039;m proud of the young Republican for that. However, other conservatives are starting to seep bitterness over the GOP&#039;s demise. My suggestion would be to take that bitterness out on those responsible....Newt, Tom DeLay, Comander Codpiece and the Dick...to name just a few.

P.S. I didn&#039;t read in his comments where Chuck was &quot;spreading hate&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Dudes&#8230;.throwing down in May over the November election. Great stuff.</p>
<p>to farleigh: It is true that in the rust and Appalachian zones of Ohio, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, and Kentucky, education levels of the population are lower than in other states. </p>
<p>Are all Democratic voters for Hillary in those states uneducated and ignorant? Of course not. Folks who can&#039;t see past the &#034;gas tax holiday&#034; nonsense are unsophisticated in political pandering, at the very least. Others simply voted for their personal choice between two outstandingly qualified candidates.</p>
<p>I do believe that education is the key to tolerance and further reduction of racism in America. Many folks in West Virginia, according to exit polls, included race as a primary reason in who they voted for. High school only voters were also a large portion of WVa&#039;s turnout. You do the math.</p>
<p>You say&#8230;&#034;all the while he tells me that I am bitter and thats why I go to church, or I am uneducated and thats why I own a gun.&#034; </p>
<p>You sound bitter. And it is true that some bitter people own guns and some attend church. Only you know why you own a gun.</p>
<p>What Obama said which you are misusing, understandably, is that some Americans, perhaps you are one, have been so hardened and cynical about politicians&#039; promises to help average working families that they simply dismiss all of those offerings as lies now. Then they proceed to vote in elections basing their votes on other arguments, religious issues, guns, and I would argue, gays, stem cells, abortions, etc.</p>
<p>All of that is true. </p>
<p>A Democratic primary result CANNOT be extrapolated into the same general election result. That would be very shaky, if not shady, thinking. Easy to disprove as well. Think Obama will lose California or New York? Do you? Hey, Obama didn&#039;t win either primary.</p>
<p>Finally, Ben is holding his chin up high, and he knows the score this November. I&#039;m proud of the young Republican for that. However, other conservatives are starting to seep bitterness over the GOP&#039;s demise. My suggestion would be to take that bitterness out on those responsible&#8230;.Newt, Tom DeLay, Comander Codpiece and the Dick&#8230;to name just a few.</p>
<p>P.S. I didn&#039;t read in his comments where Chuck was &#034;spreading hate&#034;.</p>
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		<title>By: farleigh</title>
		<link>http://politics.ohio.com/2008/05/14/obama-beats-edwards-by-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2490</link>
		<dc:creator>farleigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 01:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>deal, I am assuming you are a man of your word, and I am a man of mine.  At least one of us will find the internet to be infinitely more enjoyable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>deal, I am assuming you are a man of your word, and I am a man of mine.  At least one of us will find the internet to be infinitely more enjoyable.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Keeler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Keeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 01:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All right lets do a screen capture of this.</description>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://politics.ohio.com/2008/05/14/obama-beats-edwards-by-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2487</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 01:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Done</description>
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		<title>By: farleigh</title>
		<link>http://politics.ohio.com/2008/05/14/obama-beats-edwards-by-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2485</link>
		<dc:creator>farleigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 23:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>your right he doesn&#039;t WV, he doesn&#039;t need Ohio, He doesn&#039;t need anything.

I will make a bet with you.  If Obama loses you cease posting both here and on the chief source, and if Obama wins I will.  Why don&#039;t you put your money where your mouth is, because the sooner you are gone spreading your hate the better.

C&#039;mon Chuck if you are so confident DO IT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your right he doesn&#039;t WV, he doesn&#039;t need Ohio, He doesn&#039;t need anything.</p>
<p>I will make a bet with you.  If Obama loses you cease posting both here and on the chief source, and if Obama wins I will.  Why don&#039;t you put your money where your mouth is, because the sooner you are gone spreading your hate the better.</p>
<p>C&#039;mon Chuck if you are so confident DO IT</p>
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		<title>By: anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 21:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A decent resignation sppech by Dann.  No chest thumping, no woe is me, credit to those who have worked hard.  Hope he moves on and regains some personal and professional credibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A decent resignation sppech by Dann.  No chest thumping, no woe is me, credit to those who have worked hard.  Hope he moves on and regains some personal and professional credibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 21:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he doesn&#039;t need WV.  and he is obviously not going to win it, so who cares about the historical aspect.clinton also won states like Georgia, but that is not going to happen this time.  

in fact, every time you have mentioned swing states, WV is never mentioned, so it is just dumb to suddenly act like it matters what happens there.  the only way that vote yesterday would have mattered was if hillary was closer in the delegate count.  she was not, so it did not matter.  

And McCain keeps losing 25% of the vote in elections....should i act like that is a big deal?  


farleigh, you need to calm yourself down and look at the polling right now.  Obama is beating McCain easily. In the past month, like 21 of 24 polls have Obama up.  RCP polling average has him up 4.5%.  And the States breakdown just as well for him, too.  But don&#039;t that stop you from ignoring the polling, getting foaming mad about Obama&#039;s middle name, and clinging to his former pastor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he doesn&#039;t need WV.  and he is obviously not going to win it, so who cares about the historical aspect.clinton also won states like Georgia, but that is not going to happen this time.  </p>
<p>in fact, every time you have mentioned swing states, WV is never mentioned, so it is just dumb to suddenly act like it matters what happens there.  the only way that vote yesterday would have mattered was if hillary was closer in the delegate count.  she was not, so it did not matter.  </p>
<p>And McCain keeps losing 25% of the vote in elections&#8230;.should i act like that is a big deal?  </p>
<p>farleigh, you need to calm yourself down and look at the polling right now.  Obama is beating McCain easily. In the past month, like 21 of 24 polls have Obama up.  RCP polling average has him up 4.5%.  And the States breakdown just as well for him, too.  But don&#039;t that stop you from ignoring the polling, getting foaming mad about Obama&#039;s middle name, and clinging to his former pastor.</p>
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		<title>By: farleigh</title>
		<link>http://politics.ohio.com/2008/05/14/obama-beats-edwards-by-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2476</link>
		<dc:creator>farleigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 21:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>obviously reverend you think the majority of dem voters in Ohio Pa &amp; WV are ignorant then huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>obviously reverend you think the majority of dem voters in Ohio Pa &amp; WV are ignorant then huh?</p>
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		<title>By: farleigh</title>
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		<dc:creator>farleigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 21:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very true julie but according to the obama lovers you must be stupid not to be waiting to kiss barack husseins pampered butt,  all the while he tells me that I am bitter and thats why I go to church, or I am uneducated and thats why I own a gun.  Or maybe it is his crazy mentor,  or his far left opinions that make me want to puke whne I think of him representing me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very true julie but according to the obama lovers you must be stupid not to be waiting to kiss barack husseins pampered butt,  all the while he tells me that I am bitter and thats why I go to church, or I am uneducated and thats why I own a gun.  Or maybe it is his crazy mentor,  or his far left opinions that make me want to puke whne I think of him representing me</p>
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