Comments on: This is Why She Stays in the Race http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/ Ohio Politcal News, Commentary and Information Sun, 31 Jan 2010 03:08:56 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: larry d. http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-1700 larry d. Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:37:17 +0000 http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/#comment-1700 How do we know that's true, Reverend? Have any of these hicks been on the couch to talk out these transference issues with a licensed professional? How do we know that's true, Reverend? Have any of these hicks been on the couch to talk out these transference issues with a licensed professional?

]]> By: The Reverend http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-1691 The Reverend Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:19:19 +0000 http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/#comment-1691 I get a kick out of the use of the word elitist. McCain, or at least, McCain's wife, owns 8 houses and has access to more money than God. The Clinton's earned over $100 million since Bill left office. Bush, the Younger, had to hide his elitist existence with chainsaws and cowboy hats, fig leaves to counter his privileged status. This alleged gaffe by Obama had nothing to do with elitism. Just as his comment, brought up again by balladeer, about his white grandmother's fears, was not elitist. He was speaking the truth. I realize it's hard to comprehend. We so rarely hear truth from our highest leaders. Speaking truth is risky. Those who oppose the truth will always resist and fight back. It is true that many Americans have given up believing that government even cares about day to day concerns of the average family. Jobs, education, health care, economic conditions for working families are areas that voters know through experience government simply won't do anything about unless it's making the conditions worse. So what do these cynical realist voters do? They settle for the controversial scraps from politicians about choice, immigration, guns, religion, etc. It's a frustrated cynical bitterness over government's total failure to deal with real-life issues that leads some voters to fight over these tangential issues. That's what Obama was saying.....and it's true. P.S. Will someone please list for me the names of all these "liberal" media folks? I realize I'm not an expert, but for some reason when I go to count genuine liberal media people, I only come up with a handful. P.S.S. What I really think is that establishment cheerleaders are becoming desperate over Obama's candidacy. Chickens....heads cut off....running. That sort of thing. I get a kick out of the use of the word elitist. McCain, or at least, McCain's wife, owns 8 houses and has access to more money than God. The Clinton's earned over $100 million since Bill left office. Bush, the Younger, had to hide his elitist existence with chainsaws and cowboy hats, fig leaves to counter his privileged status.

This alleged gaffe by Obama had nothing to do with elitism. Just as his comment, brought up again by balladeer, about his white grandmother's fears, was not elitist.

He was speaking the truth. I realize it's hard to comprehend. We so rarely hear truth from our highest leaders.

Speaking truth is risky. Those who oppose the truth will always resist and fight back.

It is true that many Americans have given up believing that government even cares about day to day concerns of the average family. Jobs, education, health care, economic conditions for working families are areas that voters know through experience government simply won't do anything about unless it's making the conditions worse.

So what do these cynical realist voters do? They settle for the controversial scraps from politicians about choice, immigration, guns, religion, etc. It's a frustrated cynical bitterness over government's total failure to deal with real-life issues that leads some voters to fight over these tangential issues.

That's what Obama was saying…..and it's true.

P.S. Will someone please list for me the names of all these "liberal" media folks? I realize I'm not an expert, but for some reason when I go to count genuine liberal media people, I only come up with a handful.

P.S.S. What I really think is that establishment cheerleaders are becoming desperate over Obama's candidacy. Chickens….heads cut off….running. That sort of thing.

]]> By: anne http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-1671 anne Tue, 15 Apr 2008 01:16:02 +0000 http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/#comment-1671 I agree with Ben that anyone constantly under media scrutiny and always in the spotlight will eventually regret some of their comments, be they D or R. It seems obvious that Obama needs additional help with his speechwriting since that gaffe should have been caught before it was ever uttered. As a voter who has voted both ways, I don't see this comment necessarily racist or elitist but certainly naive and uninformed. If there was doubt in some peoples' minds, I think this will definitely push them into the Hillary camp. I agree with Ben that anyone constantly under media scrutiny and always in the spotlight will eventually regret some of their comments, be they D or R. It seems obvious that Obama needs additional help with his speechwriting since that gaffe should have been caught before it was ever uttered. As a voter who has voted both ways, I don't see this comment necessarily racist or elitist but certainly naive and uninformed. If there was doubt in some peoples' minds, I think this will definitely push them into the Hillary camp.

]]> By: Ben Keeler http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-1652 Ben Keeler Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:23:52 +0000 http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/#comment-1652 Tom, the Democrats arent going to be united behind either. AT least not from what we see right now. Tom, the Democrats arent going to be united behind either. AT least not from what we see right now.

]]> By: Tom Reynolds http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-1641 Tom Reynolds Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:58:47 +0000 http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/#comment-1641 Mrs. Clinton is not the best Democratic nominee. She voted for the war, supported NAFTA, and lied about events that she was involved with (e.g. Bosnia issue). She should drop out of the race after Obama beats her in the primary season. A fight at the Democratic Convention in August would be poor public relations for the party. The Democrats need a united front to beat McCain and to turn this country around. Mrs. Clinton is not the best Democratic nominee. She voted for the war, supported NAFTA, and lied about events that she was involved with (e.g. Bosnia issue). She should drop out of the race after Obama beats her in the primary season. A fight at the Democratic Convention in August would be poor public relations for the party. The Democrats need a united front to beat McCain and to turn this country around.

]]> By: bj http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-1640 bj Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:56:57 +0000 http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/#comment-1640 "Democrats wouldn't show the same courtesy." That right there is a big reason why I don't vote. Is anyone else tired of the back and forth between Ds and Rs arguing about whose poo smells terrible and whose smells like flowers. "Democrats wouldn't show the same courtesy."

That right there is a big reason why I don't vote. Is anyone else tired of the back and forth between Ds and Rs arguing about whose poo smells terrible and whose smells like flowers.

]]> By: The Fat Lady Hasn’t Sung | Rowsey Blog http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-1637 The Fat Lady Hasn’t Sung | Rowsey Blog Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:32:59 +0000 http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/#comment-1637 [...] Keeler over at The Point has excellent analysis of the latest Obama gaffe when talking about Pennsylvania voters that cling [...] [...] Keeler over at The Point has excellent analysis of the latest Obama gaffe when talking about Pennsylvania voters that cling [...]

]]> By: angry conserv http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-1635 angry conserv Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:08:22 +0000 http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/#comment-1635 I was increasingly wondering if Obama was racist. Now I am leaning towards the elitist lib. He understands that those small town people dont have the insight that people of his strata enjoy. They are the victims of the system and while they may be prejudice it is only because the system encourages them to look for villians to keep them from knowing the real enemy. Once they are lead and nutured by a government that understands and corrects the true nature of socities ills people can be transformed. Didn't Michelle tell us that Obama can fix our souls. Once the progressive elite fix our souls there will be no fear thus no need for guns. The shackles of religion can be thrown off and we only need to look to our leaders for quidance. There will be no need for thoughts of race,gender,relgion or want. We are all one people divided only by artifical walls and borders. Let those that can end the suffering and inequality lead us to a land of equal outcome. Damn, I only wish my college professors could read this. They thought I slept through class. I was increasingly wondering if Obama was racist. Now I am leaning towards the elitist lib. He understands that those small town people dont have the insight that people of his strata enjoy. They are the victims of the system and while they may be prejudice it is only because the system encourages them to look for villians to keep them from knowing the real enemy. Once they are lead and nutured by a government that understands and corrects the true nature of socities ills people can be transformed. Didn't Michelle tell us that Obama can fix our souls. Once the progressive elite fix our souls there will be no fear thus no need for guns. The shackles of religion can be thrown off and we only need to look to our leaders for quidance. There will be no need for thoughts of race,gender,relgion or want. We are all one people divided only by artifical walls and borders. Let those that can end the suffering and inequality lead us to a land of equal outcome. Damn, I only wish my college professors could read this. They thought I slept through class.

]]> By: Chuck http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-1633 Chuck Sun, 13 Apr 2008 16:18:57 +0000 http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/#comment-1633 I don't think Obama is racist, but maybe I am wrong. But I am almost positive this Baladeer person is a racist that better keep using code names to hide his identity. I don't think Obama is racist, but maybe I am wrong.

But I am almost positive this Baladeer person is a racist that better keep using code names to hide his identity.

]]> By: Chuck http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-1632 Chuck Sun, 13 Apr 2008 16:16:04 +0000 http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/#comment-1632 the story is a real story, worthy of a few days of news. but if this thing goes on, like ben projects, it is a sign of the media being not-so-liberal. the story is a real story, worthy of a few days of news. but if this thing goes on, like ben projects, it is a sign of the media being not-so-liberal.

]]> By: balladeer http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-1631 balladeer Sun, 13 Apr 2008 13:11:27 +0000 http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/#comment-1631 Obama has a hard time relating to middle-class whites. His comments regarding "typical white person" during his Sacrifice Grandma speech, and now these lastest comments, demonstrate this. His comments are no less racist than a white candidate claiming that frustrated blacks turn to fried chicken and collard greens, with an occasional slice of watermelon. He is, for all practical purposes, a racist. I'll bet all those "typical whites" in Pennsylvania can describe Obama with one word: Uppity. Obama has a hard time relating to middle-class whites. His comments regarding "typical white person" during his Sacrifice Grandma speech, and now these lastest comments, demonstrate this. His comments are no less racist than a white candidate claiming that frustrated blacks turn to fried chicken and collard greens, with an occasional slice of watermelon. He is, for all practical purposes, a racist.

I'll bet all those "typical whites" in Pennsylvania can describe Obama with one word: Uppity.

]]> By: larry d. http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-1627 larry d. Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:47:24 +0000 http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/#comment-1627 Obama's statement was not just a dumb thing for a candidate to say, it's a dumb piece of dimestore psychology. Small towners care about guns and fetuses because they lost their rust belt jobs 25 years ago? How many rest belt jobs are there in these rural towns anyway? What's he talking about? Obama's statement was not just a dumb thing for a candidate to say, it's a dumb piece of dimestore psychology.

Small towners care about guns and fetuses because they lost their rust belt jobs 25 years ago? How many rest belt jobs are there in these rural towns anyway? What's he talking about?

]]> By: Alaskan Independent http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-1626 Alaskan Independent Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:39:38 +0000 http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/#comment-1626 Or maybe I'm reading the last part of Chuck's second comment the wrong way, I don't know. Or maybe I'm reading the last part of Chuck's second comment the wrong way, I don't know.

]]> By: Alaskan Independent http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-1625 Alaskan Independent Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:38:05 +0000 http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/#comment-1625 Ben, It was a remark directed at Chuck who believes that just because the media brings this up that it cannot possibly have a liberal slant Ben,

It was a remark directed at Chuck who believes that just because the media brings this up that it cannot possibly have a liberal slant

]]> By: Ben Keeler http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-1624 Ben Keeler Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:34:35 +0000 http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/#comment-1624 Alaskan - I dont get your comment. The Huffington Post is part of the liberal media - they arent even one that pretends to be non-partisan. Not sure if you botched the comment or what. Chuck Dont blame me for his comments. I just report. In my estimation, Obama did not mean them negatively - they just reflect his honest views of how he sees people in PA who havent yet signed on to his message. Its up to voters to determine if they are offended by it. Not me or Sean hannity. Alaskan – I dont get your comment. The Huffington Post is part of the liberal media – they arent even one that pretends to be non-partisan. Not sure if you botched the comment or what.

Chuck Dont blame me for his comments. I just report. In my estimation, Obama did not mean them negatively – they just reflect his honest views of how he sees people in PA who havent yet signed on to his message. Its up to voters to determine if they are offended by it. Not me or Sean hannity.

]]> By: PA_Lady http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-1623 PA_Lady Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:18:57 +0000 http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/#comment-1623 Ben: Sorry I missed the jest. Guess I was still sensitive from the Obama remarks. Ben: Sorry I missed the jest. Guess I was still sensitive from the Obama remarks.

]]> By: Alaskan Independent http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-1622 Alaskan Independent Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:12:34 +0000 http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/#comment-1622 "and the "liberal" media will cling to this story for several days." So is the Huffington Post, the ones who broke the audio, now part of the liberal media? Victor David Hanson has a great piece on this matter at NRO http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=Y2Y3MmU4OTViZjQ5YTA5ZGUzZjhiOWJhYTIzMGM2ZTE= "and the "liberal" media will cling to this story for several days."

So is the Huffington Post, the ones who broke the audio, now part of the liberal media?

Victor David Hanson has a great piece on this matter at NRO
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=Y2Y3MmU4OTViZjQ5YTA5ZGUzZjhiOWJhYTIzMGM2ZTE=

]]> By: angry conserv http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-1620 angry conserv Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:40:38 +0000 http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/#comment-1620 Agree,disagree,spin it anyway you want. The bottom line is this defines Mr. Obama. An arrogant elitist. It reminds me of a "progressive" that is a fanatical Obama supporter. He stated after flying over the vast area of America's heartland that if all those farmers had access to all the information he did they would understand the correctness of the views he promotes. Thank you Mr. Obama and his supporters I now understand,if only we all had the proper knowledge and quidance we would abandon guns, religion, embrace all peoples and open our borders to one and all. Perhaps the bigger question is what right does this small town hayseed have questioning those that have the correct information. Agree,disagree,spin it anyway you want. The bottom line is this defines Mr. Obama. An arrogant elitist. It reminds me of a "progressive" that is a fanatical Obama supporter. He stated after flying over the vast area of America's heartland that if all those farmers had access to all the information he did they would understand the correctness of the views he promotes. Thank you Mr. Obama and his supporters I now understand,if only we all had the proper knowledge and quidance we would abandon guns, religion, embrace all peoples and open our borders to one and all. Perhaps the bigger question is what right does this small town hayseed have questioning those that have the correct information.

]]> By: PA_Lady http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-1619 PA_Lady Sat, 12 Apr 2008 19:51:12 +0000 http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/#comment-1619 Ben: Thanks for commenting over at my site. Obama might be elitist - certainly he shows signs of it with his recent remarks - but <i>"but there will be fallout once it is played over and over on AM radio and the comment sinks in to life's losers in PA that walk on a dirt road in their bare feet to get to the polls.</i> is just as bad. PA has a few dirt roads left, but 99.9% of our citizens do, in fact, wear shoes. Ben: Thanks for commenting over at my site. Obama might be elitist – certainly he shows signs of it with his recent remarks – but "but there will be fallout once it is played over and over on AM radio and the comment sinks in to life's losers in PA that walk on a dirt road in their bare feet to get to the polls. is just as bad.

PA has a few dirt roads left, but 99.9% of our citizens do, in fact, wear shoes.

]]> By: Chuck http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-1618 Chuck Sat, 12 Apr 2008 19:05:59 +0000 http://politics.ohio.com/2008/04/12/this-is-why-she-stays-in-the-race/#comment-1618 Again, he was correct in his assessment. But it is dumb for him to say that type of thing. Because now we have to listen to all the fake outrage of the Keeler/Hannity wing of the world. and the "liberal" media will cling to this story for several days. Again, he was correct in his assessment. But it is dumb for him to say that type of thing.

Because now we have to listen to all the fake outrage of the Keeler/Hannity wing of the world.

and the "liberal" media will cling to this story for several days.

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